From Protecting Life, Liberty and Property to Stealing, Enslaving, and Murdering: Oregon

January 28, 2016 Posted by: Kelly Gneiting

by Kelly Gneiting

“…tis immortality to sacrifice ourselves for the salvation of our country.  We fear not death.  [For] that gloomy night, that pale-faced moon, and the affrighted stars that hurried through the sky can witness that we fear not death.  Our hearts which, at the recollection, glow with rage that four revolving years have scarcely taught us to restrain, can witness that we fear not death…. We dread nothing but slavery.”

These were the words of John Hancock in 1774, from an oration at the Boston Massacre.  A year later, April 19th 1775, the shot was heard “‘round the world” and one more year after that, July 4th 1776, America declared her independence.

The American government was established to protect rights given to each human soul by God at birth, namely life, liberty, and property.  Benjamin Franklin stated, “Freedom is not a gift bestowed upon us by other men, but a right that belongs to us by the laws of God and nature.”

bundy_5Yet government today is now a mechanism of NOT protecting life, liberty and property, but of stealing, enslaving, and murdering, and they do these things within a massive support system network that involves 1) other agents of government, 2) the media, 3) the two major political parties (power-seeking opportunists), 4) individuals and organizations (including churches) seeking favors, rewards and/or security, and 5) the gullible and blind-obedient.

Those agents in power will do as much damage to life, liberty, and property as they believe they can get away with, without an uprising of the people to a level they cannot control (see Helaman 8:4).  Such is the case in the Bundy occupancy in Oregon, after ranchers’ redress of grievances in peaceful ways yielded only further stealing, enslaving, and murdering.

Stealing: the federal government has a long documented history of intimidating and/or bullying ranchers and miners into giving up their property for pennies on the dollar, or getting it for free in cases of fiat decrees (AKA presidential executive orders) which set aside vast amounts of land for federal national forests and wildlife refuges—contrary to the minimal (legal) land allotted to them by the Constitution.  Yet theft of property by intimidation pales into insignificance when compared to that taken from the American people by the Federal Reserve cartel, and our insurmountable national debt, which steals (at best) the inheritance of our children and grandchildren.

Enslaving: the federal government throws ranchers in jail when they refuse the “buyout” they are offering, as in the case of the Hammonds in Oregon.  But the Hammonds are just one example.  Thousands are enslaved because they chose to claim their own property, instead of obeying the demands of IRS thugs.

Murdering: LeVoy Finicum, a good and honest man, was murdered by the FBI earlier this week.  His hands were in the air in a completely defenseless posture.  Victoria Sharp, the eye witness, stated further that 5 to 10 minutes of FBI-only gunfire ensued and had any of the occupants exited the car, that person “certainly would have been shot and killed.”  Finicum’s blood is added to the sea of innocent blood snuffed out by agents of the federal government.

George Washington warned of the unchecked power of government, stating in his farewell address, “Occupants of public offices love power and are prone to abuse it.” (abuse = stealing, enslaving, and murdering)

John Adams writes, “The jaws of power are always open to devour, and her arm is always stretched out… to destroy… ”

”The truth is that all men having power ought to be mistrusted.” —James Madison

I felt then (and feel now) a deep concern for Ammon Bundy’s cause, since redressing grievances by petition to government officials has failed.

Most Americans look upon the occupiers as failures of patriotism, since laws are in place and a system of pursuing justice is already established.  This majority would advise finding the solution to be the electing of officials who could then plead their cause, as well as petitioning those already in power.  But from the occupiers point of view, America’s system of electing wise and honorable men of integrity has been hijacked, and the proof is in the plain-to-see “fruit” that is steadily produced: continued stealing, enslaving and murdering.

The concern I felt, and the primary reason for me personally in making the trip was to offer enCOURAGEment.  Since the 1) cause was just, and the men and women were 2) godly (worthy)—as was our Founding Fathers—the only element that would stifle victory—as the scriptures say, “in the strength of the Lord”—was 3) COURAGE.

I pray continually for the lives, liberty and property of the occupiers remaining at the refuge, and for all involved.  Mainstream media reports that there are a “half-dozen” left.  This likely means there’s 10 people who still remain.

But all it takes is one, since according to Thomas Jefferson, “One man with courage is a majority.”

The following words by Edmund Burke are not just words to me.  I truly believe that with God NOTHING is impossible to one man with courage:

“How often has public calamity been arrested on the very brink of ruin, by the seasonable energy of a single man? Have we no such man amongst us? I am as sure as I am of my being, that one vigorous mind without office, without situation, without public functions of any kind, I say, one such man, confiding in the aid of God, and full of just reliance in his own fortitude, vigor, enterprise, and perseverance, would first draw to him some few like himself, and then that multitudes, hardly thought to be in existence, would appear and troop about him.”

I would submit that courage is the antidote of governmental theft, enslavement, and murder.



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  • Well he spoke through his lawyer that the fight is now within the courts. Now I wonder if we will ever know what actually happened. Will the investigation of LeVoy Finnicum be a genuine one? Will the eye witness account hold to be factual or will the media use the typical half-half-truth tactic to appease their agenda? We will see.

    • sumosource

      I’ve read lots of media reports and they’re already backing away from the real story. They always do, they always will, and their Gadianton Robber friends will testify in support of them, just like in the Book of Mormon.

      • The FBI footage has been released. It reveals a lot, however, there is no audio and it’s poor resolution, limited angles and the occasional obscuring tree tops makes it difficult to determine what specifically Mr. Finnicum was trying to do at that precise moment. There is not enough context of the incident without hearing what is being said and when. One is only left to ASSUME he’s reaching for his gun in anger.

        • concerned parent

          He’s obviously angry. When one’s pulling a gun out, I wouldn’t wait to see if he’d pull the trigger or not..

          • I wouldn’t either. So with all these different stories out, is there actual evidence that he was pulling a gun now? Because I never saw it in the footage released. And another question, Why instigate a “routine” traffic stop to begin with if ambush is not the intention? Where was the offense from the citizens in the vehicles that caused the police/FBI to pull them over with such an overwhelming “defensive” posture? Citizens prior to this were permitted to come and go from the refuge at will. Did the police notify them before they pulled them over with weapons locked and loaded? Then the icing on the cake was how the one officer came out of the woods to sneak up and shoot Finicum with friendly forces within the line of fire. Is that how they are trained these days? Curious.

          • concerned parent

            I think the video is pretty clear that he was pulling a gun out or at least trying to look like he was (if his goal was to be a martyr). I asked my son to tell me what was happening in the video when he knew nothing about what was going on, and he said that one guy was pulling a gun out and then another guy shot him.
            The offense was an armed take-over of a government building, resisting arrest, and threatening police and citizens with guns over a long period of time,
            I don’t think you have to notify criminals before you pull them over. From their actions, I think they would have gone anyway.

          • I’m sure we can go back and forth on this for weeks. The biggest question I have over this incident is, can the U.S. Constitution protect U.S. citizens from an overbearing Federal Government anymore? I understand the FBI was needed as an answer to criminals such as John Dillinger, Bonnie and Clyde, Al Capone etc. But weren’t the Bundy’s and company actually promoting the U.S. Constitution? Were their intentions to threaten anybody in the “nearby” town? Bottom line, the FBI has resorted to ambushing constitution loving citizens enroute to a rally of the U.S. Constitution. I will not accept that behavior of excessive use of force from our Federal Government.

          • concerned parent

            They had taken over a federal building, they were threatening the locals, and calling for people all over the country to come join the take-over. They were there to help the local government.

          • Are you aware of what has been happening between certain U. S. citizens and the Dept. of Interior for decades out in the Western States prior to this and the Bundy Ranch standoff? It has escalated to the point where the targeted citizens sympathize with the grievances our founding fathers. ” We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.–That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, –That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. ” – Thomas Jefferson & signers

          • concerned parent

            You asked why the feds needed to be there, and that was my last answer. I understand the Declaration and Constitution (actually teaching Key of Liberty right now), and know that just saying you’re a Constitutionalist doesn’t make you one. The ranchers have had Dept of Interior causing problems, but the situation is also been getting better in the last few years as people petition non-violently. We still have that ability now. The peaceful protest (first amendment) was getting good public relations until people decided to go illegal. We’re looking more now at situations like Shay’s Rebellion and not the American Revolution.

      • concerned parent

        I hear the family changing their story pretty often. First he was shot in the face while kneeling with his hands up. Then FBI video showed him standing and reaching for a gun, to which the family said he had already been shot and was reaching in pain. Then new video footage shows him reaching, and then the gunshot and him falling. Maybe the media reports are backing from the “real” story because evidence is coming out against it.